OK, I wasn't going to make a further comment, but I think I need to, if only to apologise to Zuly.

I'm sorry if I upset any of you. I didn't mean to be dissing anyone's faith.

When I did yoga, the only person that was into the whole 'tree' thing, was the instructor. The rest of us were there to stretch our bodies and see if the yoga way was going to work for us.

The concept of yoga as a spiritual experience was never gone into, and to be honest, I wouldn't have stayed in the class if it had.

Maybe it's just me being a cynical ass, but the spiritual side of it did nothing for me. Whilst I don't want to offend anyone here, I'm not about to pretend that yoga did any more than help me physically de-stress after a day's work.

hmm i just read calm is a bad thing so maybe i was wrong (ha of course I was wrong)

I finally get my husband to a yoga class and it turns out the instructor that I usually have is out ... and has arranged a sub... who has us do something he called "fly on a windshield". My window of opportunity for convincing my husband that this is an activity we can BOTH enjoy was totally squished by that sub. Karma. Could have used a Hydrox, but he is an Oreo kind of guy, so it wouldn't have helped us either.

I remember chanting a version of fuck during the session ... but it did not help much either.

Jodi -- is this about you preferring Oreos to Hydrox? Is it a quality thing? Or is it simply that serving food that has been known to take the paint off of cars is a conflict of interest when one purports to be helping people become both spiritually and physically healthy?

I rather like the meditative poses of yoga, including "pretending I'm a tree". For some people yoga isn't about spirituality; fine. But there are some of us who use the deep spiritual underpinings of yoga practice to help us stay centered and connected the universe in our day to day lives. While such beliefs are not for everyone, it hardly constitutes insulting those of us who utilize yoga as part of our ongoing quest as spiritual beings.

Jodi, no I will not.

My inflexibility has always been there, no matter what I try.

I actually enjoyed doing yoga. It was all this "pretend you're a tree" bollocks that got on my nerves.

Leo, you're thinking of Bikram yoga. Watch out for the children and cheese.

I like to direct my anger towards commie bastards.

And youngins.

[shakes fist menacingly]

Anyhow, I've always wanted to try that Extreme Yoga or something? The one where they like turn the heat up to 180 degrees and make you do stuff.

I've also heard that while you're doing yoga they like to hurl small children and dairy products at you, but this is probably just hearsay and conjecture, huh?

Direct your anger toward your own inflexibility, Max, not the "hippies"!

Oh, and by the way, Dharma's parents on Dharma & Greg could have been based on mine, and their kids (including their oldest daughter) didn't fall too far from that tree. So watch it.

I've done yoga. It was interesting.

I learnt that I'm possibly the least-supple person in the northern hemisphere.

Yoga would be a lot better, if it didn't involve having to be around all those tree-hugging hippies, spouting their karma bullshit.

isnt yoga supposed to make you calm and all that :)

The only thing Hydrox cookies help is my assessment that the people who run the yoga studio are full of shit, what with all their groovy self-awareness and occasional detoxification rituals. They're actually very pleasant people, but they do try to push their chanting stuff on me whenever I see them. (I asked them if I could solemnly and gently chant the word "fuck"; they laughed and told me I was "too funny!")

How do the Hydrox help? (Is it that whole creamy center thing?)